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	<title>Comments on: Michael Arrington of TechCrunch Pitches a Tantrum Over Press Release Embargoes</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Hepburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Hepburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luckily, being blacklisted by TechCrunch doesn&#039;t bother me much. At least one of us will still have our integrity ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re absolutely right about the growing animosity between PRs and journobloggers. That might not be a bad thing. Journalists SHOULD be more skeptical, although a more collegial tone wouldn&#039;t hurt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For a great perspective on this, check out the post by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081218/techcrunchs-yertle-the-turtle-tantrum-over-news-embargoes/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wall St. Journal&#039;s Kara Swisher&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luckily, being blacklisted by TechCrunch doesn&#39;t bother me much. At least one of us will still have our integrity ;)</p>
<p>You&#39;re absolutely right about the growing animosity between PRs and journobloggers. That might not be a bad thing. Journalists SHOULD be more skeptical, although a more collegial tone wouldn&#39;t hurt.</p>
<p>For a great perspective on this, check out the post by the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081218/techcrunchs-yertle-the-turtle-tantrum-over-news-embargoes/" rel="nofollow">Wall St. Journal&#39;s Kara Swisher</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hepburn</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaemerging.com/2008/12/19/michael-arrington-of-techcrunch-pitches-a-tantrum-over-press-release-embargoes/comment-page-1/#comment-2143</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Hepburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luckily, being blacklisted by TechCrunch doesn&#039;t bother me much. At least one of us will still have our integrity ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re absolutely right about the growing animosity between PRs and journobloggers. That might not be a bad thing. Journalists SHOULD be more skeptical, although a more collegial tone wouldn&#039;t hurt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For a great perspective on this, check out the post by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081218/techcrunchs-yertle-the-turtle-tantrum-over-news-embargoes/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wall St. Journal&#039;s Kara Swisher&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luckily, being blacklisted by TechCrunch doesn&#39;t bother me much. At least one of us will still have our integrity ;)</p>
<p>You&#39;re absolutely right about the growing animosity between PRs and journobloggers. That might not be a bad thing. Journalists SHOULD be more skeptical, although a more collegial tone wouldn&#39;t hurt.</p>
<p>For a great perspective on this, check out the post by the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081218/techcrunchs-yertle-the-turtle-tantrum-over-news-embargoes/" rel="nofollow">Wall St. Journal&#39;s Kara Swisher</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: cory huff</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaemerging.com/2008/12/19/michael-arrington-of-techcrunch-pitches-a-tantrum-over-press-release-embargoes/comment-page-1/#comment-339</link>
		<dc:creator>cory huff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And making fun of Michael Arrington is a sure way to get yourself embargoed from TechCrunch - ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know much about the journalism/PR world, but it seems that bloggers are throwing fits about PR people on a regular basis (myself included) and things are quickly evolving into an adversarial relationship.  The smart journalists/flacks will survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And making fun of Michael Arrington is a sure way to get yourself embargoed from TechCrunch &#8211; ;)</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know much about the journalism/PR world, but it seems that bloggers are throwing fits about PR people on a regular basis (myself included) and things are quickly evolving into an adversarial relationship.  The smart journalists/flacks will survive.</p>
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		<title>By: cory huff</title>
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		<dc:creator>cory huff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And making fun of Michael Arrington is a sure way to get yourself embargoed from TechCrunch - ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know much about the journalism/PR world, but it seems that bloggers are throwing fits about PR people on a regular basis (myself included) and things are quickly evolving into an adversarial relationship.  The smart journalists/flacks will survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And making fun of Michael Arrington is a sure way to get yourself embargoed from TechCrunch &#8211; ;)</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know much about the journalism/PR world, but it seems that bloggers are throwing fits about PR people on a regular basis (myself included) and things are quickly evolving into an adversarial relationship.  The smart journalists/flacks will survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hepburn</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaemerging.com/2008/12/19/michael-arrington-of-techcrunch-pitches-a-tantrum-over-press-release-embargoes/comment-page-1/#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Hepburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luckily, being blacklisted by TechCrunch doesn&#039;t bother me much. At least one of us will still have our integrity ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re absolutely right about the growing animosity between PRs and journobloggers. That might not be a bad thing. Journalists SHOULD be more skeptical, although a more collegial tone wouldn&#039;t hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luckily, being blacklisted by TechCrunch doesn&#39;t bother me much. At least one of us will still have our integrity ;)</p>
<p>You&#39;re absolutely right about the growing animosity between PRs and journobloggers. That might not be a bad thing. Journalists SHOULD be more skeptical, although a more collegial tone wouldn&#39;t hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: cory huff</title>
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		<dc:creator>cory huff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And making fun of Michael Arrington is a sure way to get yourself embargoed from TechCrunch - ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know much about the journalism/PR world, but it seems that bloggers are throwing fits about PR people on a regular basis (myself included) and things are quickly evolving into an adversarial relationship.  The smart journalists/flacks will survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And making fun of Michael Arrington is a sure way to get yourself embargoed from TechCrunch &#8211; ;)</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know much about the journalism/PR world, but it seems that bloggers are throwing fits about PR people on a regular basis (myself included) and things are quickly evolving into an adversarial relationship.  The smart journalists/flacks will survive.</p>
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		<title>By: lisahoffmann (Lisa Hoffmann)</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisahoffmann (Lisa Hoffmann)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting conversation on &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/ScottHepburn&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ScottHepburn&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s blog re: PR embargoes. Still not sure how I feel about it - http://is.gd/cRTq</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting conversation on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/ScottHepburn" rel="nofollow">@ScottHepburn</a>&#8216;s blog re: PR embargoes. Still not sure how I feel about it &#8211; <a href="http://is.gd/cRTq" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/cRTq</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hepburn</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaemerging.com/2008/12/19/michael-arrington-of-techcrunch-pitches-a-tantrum-over-press-release-embargoes/comment-page-1/#comment-2145</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Hepburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former journalist, I feel your frustration Dave. I went to school to be a journalist (print, specifically), and I know how real the pressure is to tell good stories and to be the first.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I DO have a problem with embargoes. If a PR man ever brought me a story and told me to hold it, I&#039;d remind him that I make a living breaking news, not being a shill for his clients.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still, I don&#039;t think the answer is to declare war on the entire PR industry. Michael Arrington WILL be a catalyst for change in the PR sector, especially in light of this discussion. But being a catalyst is nothing special. He had a chance here to be a leader, and I think he&#039;s missing a great opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former journalist, I feel your frustration Dave. I went to school to be a journalist (print, specifically), and I know how real the pressure is to tell good stories and to be the first.</p>
<p>I DO have a problem with embargoes. If a PR man ever brought me a story and told me to hold it, I&#39;d remind him that I make a living breaking news, not being a shill for his clients.</p>
<p>Still, I don&#39;t think the answer is to declare war on the entire PR industry. Michael Arrington WILL be a catalyst for change in the PR sector, especially in light of this discussion. But being a catalyst is nothing special. He had a chance here to be a leader, and I think he&#39;s missing a great opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hepburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Hepburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Sharilee, and thanks for weighing in.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The more I think about it, the more reasons I find to object to Arrington&#039;s post. And here&#039;s the biggie: He flat out says &quot;We&#039;ll give you our word, then break our promise whenever we damn well please.&quot; (paraphrased).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That crosses the line into ethical bankruptcy. I hope Arrington&#039;s financiers remember those words when he promises to repay his loans, or that his business partners remember them when he brokers new business deals.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, absolutely the PR industry needs to evolve. And it&#039;s happening. Maybe not fast enough for Michael Arrington, but it&#039;s happening nonetheless.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There will always be tension between the media and the PR reps -- as there should be. But that tension should be a &lt;em&gt;healthy&lt;/em&gt; tension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Sharilee, and thanks for weighing in.</p>
<p>The more I think about it, the more reasons I find to object to Arrington&#39;s post. And here&#39;s the biggie: He flat out says &#8220;We&#39;ll give you our word, then break our promise whenever we damn well please.&#8221; (paraphrased).</p>
<p>That crosses the line into ethical bankruptcy. I hope Arrington&#39;s financiers remember those words when he promises to repay his loans, or that his business partners remember them when he brokers new business deals.</p>
<p>Yes, absolutely the PR industry needs to evolve. And it&#39;s happening. Maybe not fast enough for Michael Arrington, but it&#39;s happening nonetheless.</p>
<p>There will always be tension between the media and the PR reps &#8212; as there should be. But that tension should be a <em>healthy</em> tension.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what you don&#039;t get: Writing is a job. &lt;br&gt;We&#039;re paid to write. So when PR folks make our jobs HARDER by putting embargoes on stories, usually at ridiculous times/days (I work in the automotive field and they&#039;re almost always midnight), and you work to put something together and planned to go at the embargo and then some yahoo breaks it at another bad time, you miss out. You lose traffic = money. Why? because someone else broke the rules? Then doesn&#039;t get punished or looked down upon by the industry? Yeah, sounds great to me. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the auto biz we see embargoes broken all the time, except it is by big sites looking to add pageviews and buzz about themselves. Not little fish looking to make a name. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PR people in the automotive realm aren&#039;t aggressive either. You have to go to them for the most part to get information. Even for big publications like mine. Anyway, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s wise for a PR professional to try and get even more argumentative over this topic. If you disagree I would think you could do it more diplomatically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#39;s what you don&#39;t get: Writing is a job. <br />We&#39;re paid to write. So when PR folks make our jobs HARDER by putting embargoes on stories, usually at ridiculous times/days (I work in the automotive field and they&#39;re almost always midnight), and you work to put something together and planned to go at the embargo and then some yahoo breaks it at another bad time, you miss out. You lose traffic = money. Why? because someone else broke the rules? Then doesn&#39;t get punished or looked down upon by the industry? Yeah, sounds great to me. </p>
<p>In the auto biz we see embargoes broken all the time, except it is by big sites looking to add pageviews and buzz about themselves. Not little fish looking to make a name. </p>
<p>PR people in the automotive realm aren&#39;t aggressive either. You have to go to them for the most part to get information. Even for big publications like mine. Anyway, I don&#39;t think it&#39;s wise for a PR professional to try and get even more argumentative over this topic. If you disagree I would think you could do it more diplomatically.</p>
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